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PS: I do not censor any comments. VC, if you are out there, you are free to respond. Or one of the team behind the name! PS 2: For the case you ask yourself why chaukeedaar is on the web on october 28th, when the resistance is supposed to stop the system for one day : I crawl out of the globalist system step by step in my own pace. As of today, this short article of mine got comments in about two months. It really was a shitstorm, but it was worth it if I read comments like that one from femalepharo:.

From the occult perspective, it has been said that Masonic images and other things appear purposely because through giving us these secrets they stick to their own codes and basically initiate us without our knowledge. Obviously, it is through trickery and only the wise will refuse it.

It is both! And the publicity is getting us accustomed to their rank and file in the order. Eli Rook can be found on facebook with thousands of followers too. Following along in the game, it was a big setup to get recruits for the GIN scam. VC is definitely a member. Mickael lives in Laval where VigilantCitizen runs his operation out of.

Henrik Ryosa of illomennation. The two of Joel and Kanfi have enough insider information to concoct the stories on VC, and knowledge between them to get thousands of viewers a day, upwards to 40k. Enough to justify launching two more copy cat sites. Like Like. Hello, up until recently I was very careful about this whole subject and I must say, I still am. However, that stuff was messing with my head too much and I decided to stay away. Just recently I got in contact with it again because I simply want to know more and if you start connecting the dots you realize it cant all be a coincidence.

I dont take everything for face value and like to make my own conclusions. I had been wondering about all the ads, it was weird. However, I found the articles to be informative and so I didnt make much of it. Dont really care if its fake, Im still gonna continue to read and make my own conclusions. However, what would interest me is your opinion on some of the stuff written on there. Also, last year I sent him a long-ass email and he never replied and that struck me as strange, as well, same now.

I asked him about the Eye of Horus and the different meanings for different people, still waiting on an answer. Now of course I know why I wont get one, lol. Black Swan? Do you think those are made up or there is actually some truth about it. As far as the music industry goes, I think there is a lot of crap going on. However, I still believe that not everybody is part of the Illuminati and there are some artists who actually decide to stay away.

I take it back that I dont care. I do care, I will continue to read the articles, however, the fact that they claim to be a black guy but in fact are probably some white dudes and a few other things about the site are very disturbing for me. Yes i used to go to vigilant often and i dont know but something made me unsure about it all although i found the sinister sites articles very intresting and i do see all the symbolism in movies,music,tv and photo shoots yes well i also have sent vigilant emails and never any responses and ben from psuedo occult media always used to mssg me even since he stopped his blog posting he will mssg me if i contact him…well i saw vigilant accepts article submissions and i wrote a big article with lots of video links, photos to prove my points and i never heard a thing from vigilant about it, i also applied for a job as a forum mod when there was vacancies and still nothing and at that time i was well known an well respected as a commentor at vc and psuedo and on several fb pages…this was approx 1yr ago…i dont really go to vc now….

I once created a lot of controversy on the VC website because he is obviously occult and created an uprising that led to a board reset while recruiting many members to another site. Later I discovered I had too much love for Vigilant so much so that I could not stand what I had done, so I helped bring people back on the promise that I could moderate the board and help convert the Heathen Paganists back to the true way.

JJ Virgil, where and how did you find this out? Do you have screenshots? I have been looking for proof and have not been able to find any to date. I can think for myself as well and I agree with Rick. If they were exposed this would be HUGE! Hey Desiree, cool, one more to confirm that we people CAN unmask the liers by ourselves!

Thanks for stopping by, Chaukee. I was emailing with the director, so they were responsive to inquiries about their creative process and meanings behind the film…which I did not expect them to be so open about assuming they were Illuminati agents. Just want to add to this blog that i have been censored tons of times posting on VC comments after articles. Still a lot of truth on the site, just dont swallow it all and think for yourself. I was Conspiracy Fact on that site and got banned for talking exactly about what you are saying here.

When he said he was a Mystic Christian was when I knew he was batting fro the wrong side, not only that he was interviewed by a Witches website. The true awakening is into the knowledeg of the salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ,.

This is where Henrik Ryosa and the authors of the Vigilant Citizen became acquaintances. Henrik has a death metal band illomennation. Take special note of the Lion which is an occult and arcanum symbol indicating elitist ideals and illuminism. He is one of the Vigilant Citizen insiders and was involved in phase one of acquiring the identities of all who might be able to expose their little scam.

That was before the VC forum reset that erased all information that some of these posters were revealing about Vigilant Citizen. What a wicked online cabal that is, I could throw up! If they knew how little they understand of Gods creation… Well, peace to you guys and keep on working for a better future in real freedom. Greetz, chaukee. I wonder why? Could it be their professional image as producers and entertainment journalists would be at stake? Hey Just-In-Time, ok, fair enough!

Thanks for coming back and clearifing. You know, if you would have done it to fabricate more weight by creating fake user names I guess one of the methods of disinfo agents you surely would not have come back to clearify.

Peace, Chaukee. You can blatantly see the affiliate ads onVigilant Citizen;s other sister sites knowledgefiles. Kevin Trudeau started the GIN, and previously was imprisoned due to pyramid scams. There were two other insiders involved in the collection of names that go by the names of Jones. Actually yhey were one person and used a hegelian dialectic to trick people.

It was a big headache and they tried to silence all the Christians on the site by becoming their friends and then using a hegelian dialectic steering them away from the vigilant citizen. It resulted in a board reset like Just-In-Time said. Wut up Homie? Vigilant Citizen himself admits to being a Gnostic Christian. I debated a gnostic satanist in it and revealed this luciferian ideology once and for all. Awesome and really well-grounded work you did on VCs forum.

You IMO arent exposing the Elite in anyway other than what they want. Hence my position in Politics get the Hell out of the Dialectic, you instead are content to participate in the Dialectic just as the Elite desire and push for the plan and purpose of them who created the Dialectic.

Seems to me like there are far too many people out there worrying about the baddies — real or imagined. I challenge all of you to concentrate only on that which you want in your world. They thrive on it. Without being noticed they simply cease to exist, and they can have no power. The truly clever people are utilising this powerful manifestation ability to co-create a brand new world which is really pleasant.

These are very wise words, the most positive advice I have seen since I started reading any of this debate. HAHA wow I was thinking the exact same thing about the logo on the right… but just thought that is was another advertisement so he can have the site… I just googled the book to see if I can get it for free well his sites are free why should I pay for information that is opensource?

Has anyone seen the e-book? I always walk away from sites, at the first sign of dis-info etc. I am really kicking myself. I now remember being highly suspicious of VC at first, it took a while to warm to the site. These feelings, compelled me to share my albeit limited knowledge and intuition, so as to help others in their understanding. I wanted to help people come to terms with the often scary concepts, and to help them to stay strong and positive… I feel a bit foolish now, for letting my guard down, and not sticking with my gut feeling about VC.

The same goes for Christ-Consciousness. Everything else new age and stuff is illusionary, egocentric and a plain detour on our journey. Preach Brother! I believe that site was just set up for profits and not to awaken the masses. You must be right about the profits argument, at least partly. No troll has been sent yet by VC to my article, so I suspect that he thinks in terms of marketing — Any News is Good News — and hope it will drag traffic to his site, even if it debunks VC.

Having said that I would like to reinforce my thought about VC trying to make the Illuminati seem more powerful as they actually are — and even literally make them stronger. Now if this was a true rule in spirituality, think of what would happen when thousands of VC readers concentrate their thoughts on that whole Illuminati symbol crap he puts in front of their eyes all the time.

At one point we all start to realize that the symbols really ARE everwhere, everytime we feel a bit more lost or angry or what ever — at least we do not feel positive emotions in these moments. I suspect that is how they think the world can be manipulated, and to some extend it might have some truth in it.

My best method against it: Regularly disconnect from any media and truly LIVE in the sense that life was originally designed for…. BTW, ignore my last comment. Case resolved. You are all right though when alarm bells go off about the GIN, though. Truth to be told, I was once a big fan of VC too. Luckily, I found your blog. And thank you…. Hi all! It happened to me too! Nia: Thank you a lot for the support!

Just signed up, that pedophile secret language information is top! Awweee, thanks, man! I have commented on another post of yours about Sitchin. I learn something new everyday. All this information is just stacking on top of more information and mixed into all of it is opinion and perhaps corruption. When I read other blogs where the authors seem so knowledgeable and confident about certain things I have a hard time believing it.

If something like the Illuminati is so powerful and so secret how could anyone know so much about it, without being apart of it? I am not saying you are, but I guess I am just stuck on where to find real information. I came across the VC website.

I found it interesting and also had a suspicious feeling about it. I realize using my head is the best way to discredit someone such as noticing they are selling things or referring everyone to join this group to get all of the inside info.

I guess i am asking you, where do you get your information from? I am not trying to attack you or say anything you say is false. Your question is fair enough, my next post will be on my information sources. Whoever wrote this blog is a very misguided holier-than-thou. I believe in critical thinking and this certainly reminds me why.

VC articles are well written and full of observable truths. Always find alternative sources and think for yourself. The info is not disinfo at all. It is observable, verifiable evidence of the dark side of the industry and of society in general. Same thing with Alex Jones. Even if it were true, he still woke me up and inspired me to do more research for myself, which led me to becoming even more aware. The articles themselves contain plenty of information and are free.

In my understanding, fighting Illuminati deceivers is not about being holy, but a necessity for ethical people with some responsibility and love for the creation and its inhabitants. Instead he should write what ppl needs to do to be saved in the afterlife accknowledge life is about Jesus. Way to go, lets try to show the people some possible solutions to the problems, not the problems over and over again!

The occult people get angry easily as soon as you mention God, the Creator, Jesus, Lord Krishna — anything that reminds them of their spiritual smallness and negativity. Thats one way of unmasking them. Luciferians are liars by design. God Does Not Resemble any thing in any way. Everything has been Created in pairs by Him. If we resemble Krishna and Jesus to some extents, then they cannot be likened to God in any way.

Ah, I see, name-calling arrived at my blog… Divide-and-conquer is so obvious. You guys can fool the public with your masonic methods, but not the blogosphere any more. Hope you enjoy your life at your low frequency. I guess that means these countries are Illuminati and everyone who likes the designs are also?

Are you really that deluded? The Lion IS a masonic symbol and as such is a possible indicator for these groups, and nobody is as stupid as to think a symbol has anything exlusive on its use… All your arguments are just your own interpretations and allegations of what Just-In-Time and me were saying. At least there is a difference in the reason for my offense: You call people dumbass for their different opinion, I call you low-frequency for your attitude.

Enough time wasted. I actually should not be surprised to attract flies when talking about shit. They were looking for monetary gain for allowing us to conduct an experiment through the website. Several countries as well as many different products such as liquors and tobacco too. Look at his other website illomennation which reads Illumination and his scanime. How dumb do these guys think people are?

Apparently it works though, if you look at the people commenting here like the second Daciple and Tweeterfist, and the majority of users on the vigilant citizen website are all like cattle to the slaughter. People always have a tendency to imagine the worse. It never ceases to amaze me how fools will demonize things they do not know. I know, I even moved up from the bottom of the first page to the fourth position. I knew of nothing more than the site was being overhauled for logistics and analytics collection.

Does it really have to be all that sinister now? You seem to be more upset than I am… interesting how one word or name not even directed at you can put you in such a huff so easily. Oh well. He does not control the ads [the ads are a way to pay for the site. So, I have only one question. When will you all get a life? Chaukadeer runs one right here buddy! In true disinfo fashion though, what else would any one expect of you to come here and make it seem like ads are justified because you need to recover a few bucks.

First off, the comments from Daciple above are not from the real one of VC. I am friends with him and I can get him here to prove his authenticity if anyone wishes. There is a plagiarist I am sure who going around posing as him and other members of VC, slandering the site, owner, and other members, including Henrik, who I am also friends with.

I moderate VC and have been a long time member. I do not know him personally and seldom talk to him. I, like many of you, are clueless as to if he holds malcontent in intention. I know his articles and forums helped me come to Christ in the first place and I know many share this testimony.

Can you please show me where the logo for GIN is on his site? If it was an advertisement, that is a whole other story and has no reflection on the owner of the site as those ads are put up by Google based on how relative the content is. VC in no way controls what information is put out there, and people like myself continually condemn the things VC supposedly supports. They are and we should all understand what we face against. You also say he promotes how we have already lost.

I hope you reply to this, I look forward to hearing from you. Everyone is welcome to the VC forums as well as I would love to converse with each of you. God bless. Thanks a lot for passing by and telling your background! Finally someone who brings some arguments why my opinion about VC could be wrong.

The info on the site of the original Daciple is valuable for my claim however. The GIN logo was present on VCs main site the for a couple of weeks until I wrote this post, plus at least another week after that. You could find hundreds of people having read my article and checked the logo at VCs site and having seen it with their bare eyes.

Now if censorship should have vanished from the VC boards, first it was not that way all the time, and second, the article section still gets censored, so what does this tell you about the general value system of these guys behind VC? For me, thats just mind-games, fooling yourself. Guilty of that one. As another wise blogger wrote, only the future will show if we have been part of the solution or of the problem!

VC originally let speculative discussion towards him fly in the past. I was one of the main speculators, actually lol. It at least was a big catalysts, there were a number of other reasons. We have since found out it was a poser fundie Christian who orchestrated all the madness.

He earned the trust of myself and other Christians and segregated the forum playing both protagonist and antagonist, real elite tactics stuff. It is this same person who I and others feel is posing as certain members and speaking out against VC. The same messages found here can be found exactly as they are on a number of other sites.

I just say this from a logistics approach. I can see where one makes the claim that his site externalizes the Mysteries and the elite and this can indeed be used as a negative effect for us and a positive one for them, but at the same time it can promote what is, in my opinion, the truth, as it had done for me towards Christ. Concerning your beliefs, I must say that I am in full opposition to them.

Hare Krishna is about preaching God-Consciousness as primary tool to evolve in this life. You will not find any of this New Age ascension, , your are your own god a. Vigilant Citizen is obviously disinfo. I post on that site and am a Muslim. I argue constantly against Daciple. He preaches fundamentalist Christianity while I preach Islam. And our posts are constantly censored. When the forums went down a few months ago within minutes you had all kinds of information on why they went down.

Go to the members panel and choose to see the members with mosts posts. In order to keep the comments section interesting to all readers, comments are moderated and the following will be deleted:. You are censored because, as you state, you preach religion. Religious zealots ruin the discussions on the VC site. It is not the place for your type of arguing.

Is he a nice guy? However the long thread they copy and pasted from VC is from me in a debate I had with someone there and as such I would stand by those words themselves as they are posted on VC which can be read here:.

However and yet again, the Blog that was linked is NOT from me and I until this very moment had never seen this blog nor commented on it, the above poster is an impersonation of me and for proof, here is the Thread I created on VC where I can NOT be impersonated talking about that BS Blog under my name and this particular blog:.

This attempt at impersonating me was done as well on yoy50 blogsite which again there is a Thread on VC where I posted the Truth about that nonsense as well:. Yall can believe whatever you wish about VC himself IDC, but the blog and the poster under my name isnt me or from me.

I would agree pretty much with what Tweet said…. Just my two cents. Am I the only one who recognizes that this Daciple character, the one going around claiming to be the Real One, is purposely trying to dumb down the way he speaks intentionally? Be well Tobartan, you are in my prayers.

May you come to Christ one day soon. I understand the personal disconfort something like this can create, but names are names in the end and what counts is only the thought in the words, the essence so to speak. And now you align with what Tweet said…?

I would be out of there in a minute among such a suppresive group…. In the end it seems that my blog post about the VC-GIN connection was true enough for you guys playing that dialectic game right here in my comments section. I honestly did not expect so much confirmation. If you read along some of the articles he posted he came to Christ after being a hard core Satanist. He says that on the site itself, so take his testimony with a huge dose of salt, sea salt preferred, haha.

Vigilant Citizen website is owned by two different individuals but there are about a dozen contributors to the site. Most of the users are dumb kids that want to read about sensational conspiracy theories because it gives them a sense that they understand something about the world more than the authorities, read; the adults in their lives, do.

That makes them feel superior and most teenagers like to feel that way. We conducted an experiment through the Vigilant Citizen website to garner specific data on social proofing. It was a social experiment. Both VC owners were and are a part of the project. There was an internal falling out on how the data was going to be disperesed. As scientists we were looking to determine what motivates youth these days. The VC owners wanted some sort of renumeration for our participation through their website.

There were many accomplices to this work. Some random users that joined the site prior to our showing up, and others during, and still others after. Some of the users who were working with us knew what was going on. Tweeterfist knew part of the experiment and worked dilligently in the beginning to help bring out some of the effects we were after. After the falling out with the VC owners, he stayed with VC.

Some of the work is still going on now. Problem is that VC owners wanted re-numeration for our efforts. That was not going to happen, never in the beginning nor now. They make enough money through their site. Looks to me like you have no idea about scientific experiments in the first place. What sick kind of buyer of such a study would this be? Common, is my article and the discussion here really that important to you guys that you invent all this sutff?

I held a humanistic mindset from the ages of , much like what many kids do anyways. I should also note that Daciple, one of the more vocal proponents of this study is continuing to prove vital to our data collection. Thank you for participating Daciple. Your efforts have been more helpful than you know. You move on command, and are not aware of it yet. This is all getting to be too much. Smells fishy to me!

I am also one of the researchers that helped conduct this study. I was involved in the study design. I cannot give out specifics on the methods we used for our data collection or how we used certain sub groups and belief systems to bring about our effect, nor exactly what we were after because this information is sensitive and part of a bigger effort.

The group of individuals that fell prey to most of our methods were an interesting bunch. To be clear, part of the effort was to identify a certain sub-culture or psychological mind set that is prone to falling for conspiracies. The other part was how to create an environment that they will respond predictively to. Predictive behavior is very important to social scientists! Further to that, rumors were carefully woven into the story at set intervals and observations of resultant behaviors were systematically noted and recorded.

That is, early on in their lives they felt different and that has caused them to seek out why that was. This is a significant characterstic of the individual that is prone to conspiracies. I will leave the ones responding and reading here with one major clue. Many of you observed that the user known as Toby displayed different personalities at different times.

That would be nearly impossible for one individual to achieve, although it does happen at the genius level. Administrators and moderators of the VC website, and the owners themselves can confirm that many different IP addresses were registered with this users postings. The reason why some astutely understood the differences, and why others missed them and personalized this character, is because at different times during the experiment different researchers were using that moniker as has been mentioned above.

This is very important information for us in our task, but not the end-all of the study, details of which I cannot elaborate on at this time. There were predictive measures we were after and coming here after the series of emails sent to Daciple has been an enormous bit of information to us. Well I give it the benefit of the doubt. May I ask how I resulted in this grand study? What were my triggers, and what characteristics of me did you come to find? Tell me and I will answer truthfully on how correct you are, I swear to Yahweh on that.

So how that even qualifies me for this study of you and your cohorts is sort of besides me. Tweeterfist you are either dumb or like the other guy said a cheerleader, and most probably a bit of both, to come here defending Vigilant Citizen like you do while professing to be a Christian.

All you have to do is look at knowledgefiles and secretarcana to understand that those sites are very much in positive promotion of gnostic and occult spirituality. The best way to promote anything under the radar is to do so while pretending to be a neutral journalist commenting on both sides yet leaving the reader to come to their own decision.

You are helping the cause by believing you are debating against this process. You are the antithesis that will lead to synthesis. Masonic Symbols, like the lion…. At first, the public is shocked, then outraged. Read what Blake said above. In other words, the focus of this debate slightly shifts somehow. This shifting can take several forms, depending upon the subject matter, but a slight shift always occurs. Enter the forums where highschool kids are accessing it on their mobile phones rather than paying attention to stuff that might truly educate their poor minds.

You know, science is uhm baaaaaad baaaaaa sheeeep! This process works so expertly and so gradually, the change in values and attitudes of the people against whom it is directed is almost invisible. If you examine these six steps carefully, you will see separate elements. First, two sides in conflict are needed. In other words, Synthesis is the real intended goal of this scripted play, and it is really and truly neither Thesis nor Antithesis.

What a fool. What does that say? Do you think for yourself or what? This VC guy is winding you up like the puppet you obviously are. For your sake I hope you clear the cob webs in your head. So every two hours apple is getting information on what you are reading and following through your iphone.

Wow, what a great accomplishment. Defending him on that count just proves what a doormat stooge you really are for defending someone without first confirming for yourself. By the way. Who am I? Nice blinkers you have there. Thank you so much for the knowleadgabe comment and the explonations of Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis — thats really what its all about, I completely agree!

You are right on that one! And Chaukadeer, good sir, ignore all the detractors because they just like to stir up trouble. Welcome and thanks for the support! I know full well the tactics of Hegalian Dialect. I defended VC because I looked at the article here and claimed it to be faulty in dubbing someone as controlled disinfo, which it is. Need more proof than what has been displayed here to make such a bold claim.

I have used his sites and the books downloadable from them for my own advantage in confirming my faith, and I believe all can do so as well. Living proof is right there on the forums. You have no idea what the former member Toby has done and what he continues to do in regards to impersonating people like myself, Henrik and Daciple on MANY sites. This is nothing new and you are ignorant on the subject so hold your tongue.

Ultimately, you only tell me things that I already came to figure out almost a year ago, and as I said, it was on the basis of this that the civil war on VC occured with a number of Christians Henrik, Daciple, and myself saying what you did right out in the open.

We also talk of how the Mysteries are being externalized and Hegalian Dialect, a long with a grand delusion to have the NWO emerge, will be used in order to bring them globally. I am no Antithesis because I, and others, discuss this technique and how it will be used towards the same goals of which I am supposedly not even aware of. Thanks bra. You obviously missed the obvious in Randal's post. I love that "respect" plea, like you've shown anyone here any ::rolls eyes again Do you know how dumb that sounds?

Go look on the VC site and compare the styles. Yes, enemies of something take the guise of what they hate and undermine it from within, while also controlling multiple sides. Surely you know this is a common tactic of the elite? Not saying Toby and his possible crew are. I probably still am a bit too, but go on to the actual VC forums, look up myself, Daciple, Henrik, etc. Also, Montag can easily be seen as a poser as that is part of the name of the real Daciple.

Maybe Toby is a creation of you and your leader to distract from the first comment on this blog. You all, or YALL showed up mighty quick to take it into different directions huh? Pingback: My Information Sources « chaukeedaar's blog. Ah and sorry for my late reply Chauk.

Christ-Consiousness is just another replicate of the Mystery schools and pretty much is Gnosticism and the New Age movement with a slightly different face. Self-deification is the raw doctrine of Lucifer, always has been, and is found in every big secret society.

I still see it that the original Daciple struck a cord with you, and your actions are proving that to me. Why are you trying to make me out to be one of you guys? And who the hell is this Toby character that you guys, or one guy, keep obsessing about? Did he steal your non existent girlfriend or something, lulz.

Heeee heeee heeeee. Why are you typing like the so-called real Daciple? I can just imagine you saying something like You reap what you Sow, yet are oblivious to that happening in this case right now. Never said you were apart of the Daciple crew. However, I admire his work and how it has helped me on my seeking of the truth, as well as his forums. I also felt obligated to comment on this article proclaiming VC as a bona fide controlled op yet having a pretty weak amount of evidence. I see this far too often in the truth community, people trying to piece together things with flimsy means in all sorts of areas, and as a fellow truther I feel obligated to voice my opinions out on this.

If I was a mere puppet I would not be voicing out all my opinions Some of which actually go against VC here as I am doing, so drop that schpeel already. More flimsy reasoning from a soft conspiracy-muddled mind. You are no better than one who just gulps up what the TV says and you probably nod your head and download whatever any random Youtube video has to say come conspiracies. But this has already grown stale. Think of me what you will, I could care less. I would like to discuss with Chaulk his beliefs however.

I find it funny that he claims VC disinformation and people here cite VC externalizing esoteric beliefs when Chauk here is doing the very same thing with his Christ Consiousness. Not meaning to deflect anything at you man, I would just like to discuss this more.

Just throwing this out there… what does islam have to do with Luzifer conspiracies??? Christianity is the only religion not even athesism can keep up that can connect almost all of the fundamental factual conspiracies… I really dont see how Luzifer is implied to the conspiracies with islam, the belief system is even based on moon worship, which even where Islam fits in its part of the Luziferian conspiracy….

Where Christianity was originally spreading, Islam now dominates. It is also the fastest growing religion in the world. I also believe Islam will be a fundamental catalyst towards WW3. Their end times prophecy is one of conquest when the al-Mahdi is to appear and unite all them.

Thank you for the information. Regardless of whether or not he is a disinfo agent, his character remains questionable. For all we know these characters here are all just playing games like they do on that forum for idiots. Yes I see it the same as you do! Exposing Islam is not the problem moon worship, false teaching about the deity of Lord God, false Lord God etc. Its just I wanted to know why Islamic believers try to connect their religion with the conspiracies that dont fit, and thank you for your answer!

If I were Luzifer which I am not I am happy having Jesus Christ as my saviour I would want to pull in everyone into the new religion without a rebellion which would maybe happen aready in the new world order He would be the messiah for the jews and muslims, aswell as he would be the returned Jesus again corrupting his own force religion so that his glory days begin, the worship to Luzifer, the bringer of Light!

They promote ideals akin to the Mystery schools Self-deification through knowledge, the immortality of the soul as well in some cases, coincidentally the two first lies the serpent told Eve. It has also been touted by Zeitgeist, who is obvious disinfo.

Study their core teachings on gnosis and you will see how prevalent it has become in our world, and how all these groups are linked under this philosophy, the true form of Luciferianism. These beliefs will be promoted as liberating truths to the remaining masses after WW3 and this will enter us into the NWO, with many smiling and holding hands.

They are into runes and wicca which I noticed when they did the star dance, or pan dance, which is a ritual walking on a pentagram and doing earths movements and and praying for entlightment from the earth and stars , this is where I started to notice that Rudolf Steiners philosphy is about becoming a god, and claim that recardination to earth and working on one self changes the soul after time combining the good and evil teachings equaling them and become a pure soul arian soul such as Jesus Christ which is blasphmey!

I bought a book there theosophy by Rudolf Steiner, not from blawatsky after my eyes were open to see the luziferian conspiracy and noticing that its taking place everywhere, which was frightening … I was shocked, and it took me a good 2 weeks to fully realize what was going on, it was surreal… I started to see the pentagram, the 3rd eye knowledge, the three snakes everywhere and when my boss then talked to me that I should allow my personal angel, who holds the light to entlighten me and learn from him which was before I realized this stuff, it was a time when I was searching for the truth blew my mind away when actually thinking about it!

And then when I asked about theosophy they called it the okkult knowledge that is long forgotten and that they go by the good side wiccans … even though Rudolf Steiner was the leader of theosophy for 10 years, they find it funny that I know more than the elders… they dont know that I am a hardcore true christian they say they are christians but logically they are not Thesosphy is very interesting and I find what madame blawatsky has written very intersting!

I have not read her books yet though. Why Yes I have read most of them or read a little about Oh could you name me some good books about babylon?? I have about ebooks on the topics you have posted… and have read one so far haha I hope I have enough time to read them all but do you maybe know another book that talks about the earth beings or human form without Lord Gods spirit?

See this thread. A person who told the truth about VC had his posts deleted and then lame allegations were made against them. That subject is off limits due to what it has caused towards the forums. We used to be able to talk all about our suspicions on VC and you know that as you were there for all those things. Now you have devolved into a troll who seems insecure about homosexuality and a mosquito we constantly have to ban because all you want to do is slander and troll the boards.

Get a life man. You used to be a half decent poster, what the fuck happened? Tweet, how can anyone even have the slightest shred of respect for you after reading this? Homosexuality what? I never mentioned homosexuality here. As usual, a lie. Prove one fake account made with the same IP as truthseer, I dare you. And to be honest… couldnt it be that the person who has this blog, is the one who is giving wrong information so people dont look for the truth by VC aswell?

Illuminati agent I would like to remind people not to rely on others, again I havent looked up VC myself and what else they do, but the info on VC so far has supported the Luziferian fundamentaly with christianity, I think the maker of this site who is muslim or hindu doenst like it that VC is christian, but then again I need to look into VC a little more!!! And what is with Lady Gaga being VC? I am confused with VC now… what are talking about and what is going on haha this is very amusing.

Probably the biggest VC troll. Search up his name on the boards and see the substance of his posts yourself…. Hey Ouendan and Tweeterfist, You guys are really trying hard to twist the discussion away from VC to a religious fight here. The concept of immortal souls and Karma is a thousand times more plausible to me than the concept of forgiveness of sins and this simple heaven-and-hell concept that the churches extracted from the bible and a bible that is thrown together and selected from chosen sources and manipulated in the early days.

If you can sleep better in giving me an label, please call me a follower of the Hare Krishna movement of Srila Prabhubada and a true lover of Jesus Christ. I hope some of you can understand my words a little, the way you are throwing around labels instead of knowledge and understanding of the worlds spiritual wisdom leaves me here in some sense of doubtfullness. This is blasphemy! How can you combine created and fundamentaly flawed religions with words of knowledge the truth that cannot, i mean, cannot be broken?

I as I said earlier do NOT follow anykind of church as well as anyother manipulated and changed truths about Jesus Christ, you even saying that you accept him as a important person shows right away what impact he had back when religion was the way to rule people every major religion added Jesus Christ the true Lord God to their made up luzifer religions so that people would still come and follow their blaphemy You are not a lover of Jesus Christ, if you dont follow the doctorine and change it to your way is changing the Lord God in flesh to a lunatic with magical powers!

Yes the church teach junk about heaven and Hell, and the church is made up so that people don follow the truth, the way and the life! I do take offense of people who just mix and match to their own will…. WAIT WAIT… ok, you know my email… explain to me please I will not hurt you, I want to understand how you can fundamentaly with facts and logic come to the conclusion that you have, really I just want to know, I will NOT kill you or make you feel bad, I just want to undersatnd your assumtions!

And I am sorry for dissrupting the discussion about VC! But I need to know who the person is who is spreading this info aswell. He probably wants to find out where you are posting from. Also, why not just answer here since you obviously have nothing to hide, so the rest of us can also read what you have to say to this crew that is trying to make you look like the questionable one, when obviously you are not.

Thanks for the advice and sorry for the late approval — just found your comment in the spam folder. Discussing VC here is now pointless. You cannot love Christ if you reject what He has done for us, that being sacrificing himself to pay for the debt your sin has caused. The concept of an immortal soul and achieving gnosis towards God is the exact lie the serpent told Eve. It is the fundamental beliefs of all these secret societies and elite who consider us cannon fodder and it is the beliefs that will be build the NWO spiritually.

It is all documented and going to plan, and you unfortunately are falling for it. There were also a couple of other threads like this started by users who were getting too curious. Every single one of them has been locked and deleted so far, but there is one right now that is still going strong at the current moment and let me tell you, the user who started this thread is being very honest and outspoken about the unethical practices that Vigilant Citizen is doing with users on the message boards.

It seems the only users that ever stay on their the longest are bored teenagers with nothing better to do with their lives, who pretty much contribute no meaningful information. A prime example of this would be the Lady Gaga subforums. Thank you for your response. I have noticed all of those threads being locked and removed as well. I am very glad to know that users are starting to bring up the unethical fascist-like practices of VC and his sycophant moderation crew. Furthermore, VC himself appears to have the maturity and mindset of a teenager.

Tell me who you know was banned and for what given reason, and if it was wrongful then I will investigate it personally. Truthseer above has been creating many false accounts for a bit so this may be who you speak of, though I can check the logs for specific users if you wish.

The woman is surrounded by a lot of symbolism. To say the whole forum is like this is a far cry however. The Religion section is always filled with insightful debate and I have learned much from it. Prove this. You will not be able to. It is a lie. And you know, you banned FP for writing on yoy! Hello Twetterfist, one of the users banned immedilately without warning was Mysticshadow, the other being myself mysticseeker. We were both banned on one occsaion for asking a question about the moderators —a ban that was given without warning and lasted 24hrs.

Yesterday, a thread was opened questinoing who VC was, and of course it got closed and deleted, and I, along with Mysticshadow were permanently banned. No obvious violations were made. I was banned for simply starting a thread questioning who VC was. Twetterfist: Note that conveniently, those threads have all now been removed by the fascist regime. If there is anyway that you can possibly go back and review the deleted threads —then please do.

Let me know what violations were made…. The banned members have already been pointed out. In case you are wondering, I am one of the users who posted on the Mitch Joel thread. To give you a hint, I was the one who stated that my computer almost crashed when I visited a site connected to Mitch Joel. I feel like I have been tricked. Sorry for that. Anyways VC is disinformation.

I have been warned for asking who VC is. Banned for asking if Dat Simple was right. At least at my blog, nobody gets censored, even for the most brainless comment. If people want to compromise themselves, so be it. Freedom of speach and thought includes the tolerance towards other opinions.

I too got a permanent ban from VC for participation in the thread and possibly for questioning the bannings. But they all have problems and huge egos. It was someone else. Anyways, another member Femalepharoe got banned. She was a real theorist with sound facts and generally logical explanations.

Why was she banned? Did you know she had received no warnings? She was banned for asking about V. Complete lie, and I can prove it. I find it hilarious that this topic of disinformation has been completely ravaged by disinfo. Very ironic. Tweet, you are behinf the. She got permanently banned. Go to DIsinfo Citizen, today fightingmonk. One comment, deleted. FP is banned, she wrote an essay on that. I shall mail her anf ask her to clear this. And though this is…endearing and cute, it is incredibly dangerous for you to be so willfully blind as to pledge allegiance to the multiply recorded suspicious activities of a site that is supposed to promote truth and knowledge.

He then had to apologize twice for being such a poor moderator we know why. Once I read through the knowledge on the yoy50 site, it reminded me of a time where I was attempting to post as a reference, a site that was an illuminati data bank. It has no author and is literally just a bunch of articles from published people and pictures. For some reason my article would not post. It was only until I broke down the article bit by bit to identify what the filter was kicking out that I realized it was the link for the site as I had an image from it.

Now you may ask yourself WHY would a truther site that supposedly promotes a fluidity of conversation want to appear as the only authority on illuminati knowledge?? I sent an email inquiring about why I could not post to the site. You draw your own conclusions. I then posted a response on the yoy50 site. I did NOT post any defamatory comments. THAT was in fact the last post I made before being bannedd. The one Hexa — the house slave — locked it and deleted it within minutes.

I was then banned after having no warnings. The only reason I knew was bc I got a message and attempted to check it but the big permanently banned would not. Do you know what that means? Is this not Stalin techniques of erasing people are of the picture? There is a reason a solid post can have views yet it is not until a few people actually start talking about the issue that a gaggle of trolls comes in out of no where to distract.

It is a means to keep the people visiting distracted and confused! He claims that people who are trying to identify when someone is lying to them are crazy , while at the same time admitting to manufacturing an elaborate scheme through lying to them. The VC site is housing some dangerous secrets and I believe that this character — like so many of the regular posters on VC- was created in an attempt to draw out those who may pose a problem.

The unfounded attacks and ban of myself will and has served as a big question mark towards these recent tactics as my posts and persona speaks for themselves. Also , I just want to warn any of the disinfo paid shills that may try to imposter me as all of this craziness is usually associated with the site ensues con artist ; that unless you have the charisma, pan-africanist knowledge in regards to the agenda, feminine righteousness, and over all style — do NOT embarrass yourself.

It will be obvious…ya know? Welcome and thanks very much for another statement of reason, truthfulness and positivity! It really helps myself to not lose my faith in mankind too much when I read such texts as yours! You are so right, the evidence is here and numerous and for everybody to see.

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What sick kind of buyer of such a study would this be? Common, is my article and the discussion here really that important to you guys that you invent all this sutff? I held a humanistic mindset from the ages of , much like what many kids do anyways. I should also note that Daciple, one of the more vocal proponents of this study is continuing to prove vital to our data collection. Thank you for participating Daciple.

Your efforts have been more helpful than you know. You move on command, and are not aware of it yet. This is all getting to be too much. Smells fishy to me! I am also one of the researchers that helped conduct this study. I was involved in the study design. I cannot give out specifics on the methods we used for our data collection or how we used certain sub groups and belief systems to bring about our effect, nor exactly what we were after because this information is sensitive and part of a bigger effort.

The group of individuals that fell prey to most of our methods were an interesting bunch. To be clear, part of the effort was to identify a certain sub-culture or psychological mind set that is prone to falling for conspiracies. The other part was how to create an environment that they will respond predictively to. Predictive behavior is very important to social scientists! Further to that, rumors were carefully woven into the story at set intervals and observations of resultant behaviors were systematically noted and recorded.

That is, early on in their lives they felt different and that has caused them to seek out why that was. This is a significant characterstic of the individual that is prone to conspiracies. I will leave the ones responding and reading here with one major clue. Many of you observed that the user known as Toby displayed different personalities at different times. That would be nearly impossible for one individual to achieve, although it does happen at the genius level. Administrators and moderators of the VC website, and the owners themselves can confirm that many different IP addresses were registered with this users postings.

The reason why some astutely understood the differences, and why others missed them and personalized this character, is because at different times during the experiment different researchers were using that moniker as has been mentioned above. This is very important information for us in our task, but not the end-all of the study, details of which I cannot elaborate on at this time.

There were predictive measures we were after and coming here after the series of emails sent to Daciple has been an enormous bit of information to us. Well I give it the benefit of the doubt. May I ask how I resulted in this grand study? What were my triggers, and what characteristics of me did you come to find? Tell me and I will answer truthfully on how correct you are, I swear to Yahweh on that.

So how that even qualifies me for this study of you and your cohorts is sort of besides me. Tweeterfist you are either dumb or like the other guy said a cheerleader, and most probably a bit of both, to come here defending Vigilant Citizen like you do while professing to be a Christian. All you have to do is look at knowledgefiles and secretarcana to understand that those sites are very much in positive promotion of gnostic and occult spirituality.

The best way to promote anything under the radar is to do so while pretending to be a neutral journalist commenting on both sides yet leaving the reader to come to their own decision. You are helping the cause by believing you are debating against this process. You are the antithesis that will lead to synthesis. Masonic Symbols, like the lion…. At first, the public is shocked, then outraged. Read what Blake said above. In other words, the focus of this debate slightly shifts somehow.

This shifting can take several forms, depending upon the subject matter, but a slight shift always occurs. Enter the forums where highschool kids are accessing it on their mobile phones rather than paying attention to stuff that might truly educate their poor minds. You know, science is uhm baaaaaad baaaaaa sheeeep! This process works so expertly and so gradually, the change in values and attitudes of the people against whom it is directed is almost invisible.

If you examine these six steps carefully, you will see separate elements. First, two sides in conflict are needed. In other words, Synthesis is the real intended goal of this scripted play, and it is really and truly neither Thesis nor Antithesis.

What a fool. What does that say? Do you think for yourself or what? This VC guy is winding you up like the puppet you obviously are. For your sake I hope you clear the cob webs in your head. So every two hours apple is getting information on what you are reading and following through your iphone.

Wow, what a great accomplishment. Defending him on that count just proves what a doormat stooge you really are for defending someone without first confirming for yourself. By the way. Who am I? Nice blinkers you have there. Thank you so much for the knowleadgabe comment and the explonations of Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis — thats really what its all about, I completely agree! You are right on that one! And Chaukadeer, good sir, ignore all the detractors because they just like to stir up trouble.

Welcome and thanks for the support! I know full well the tactics of Hegalian Dialect. I defended VC because I looked at the article here and claimed it to be faulty in dubbing someone as controlled disinfo, which it is. Need more proof than what has been displayed here to make such a bold claim. I have used his sites and the books downloadable from them for my own advantage in confirming my faith, and I believe all can do so as well. Living proof is right there on the forums. You have no idea what the former member Toby has done and what he continues to do in regards to impersonating people like myself, Henrik and Daciple on MANY sites.

This is nothing new and you are ignorant on the subject so hold your tongue. Ultimately, you only tell me things that I already came to figure out almost a year ago, and as I said, it was on the basis of this that the civil war on VC occured with a number of Christians Henrik, Daciple, and myself saying what you did right out in the open.

We also talk of how the Mysteries are being externalized and Hegalian Dialect, a long with a grand delusion to have the NWO emerge, will be used in order to bring them globally. I am no Antithesis because I, and others, discuss this technique and how it will be used towards the same goals of which I am supposedly not even aware of. Thanks bra. You obviously missed the obvious in Randal's post.

I love that "respect" plea, like you've shown anyone here any ::rolls eyes again Do you know how dumb that sounds? Go look on the VC site and compare the styles. Yes, enemies of something take the guise of what they hate and undermine it from within, while also controlling multiple sides.

Surely you know this is a common tactic of the elite? Not saying Toby and his possible crew are. I probably still am a bit too, but go on to the actual VC forums, look up myself, Daciple, Henrik, etc. Also, Montag can easily be seen as a poser as that is part of the name of the real Daciple.

Maybe Toby is a creation of you and your leader to distract from the first comment on this blog. You all, or YALL showed up mighty quick to take it into different directions huh? Pingback: My Information Sources « chaukeedaar's blog. Ah and sorry for my late reply Chauk.

Christ-Consiousness is just another replicate of the Mystery schools and pretty much is Gnosticism and the New Age movement with a slightly different face. Self-deification is the raw doctrine of Lucifer, always has been, and is found in every big secret society.

I still see it that the original Daciple struck a cord with you, and your actions are proving that to me. Why are you trying to make me out to be one of you guys? And who the hell is this Toby character that you guys, or one guy, keep obsessing about? Did he steal your non existent girlfriend or something, lulz. Heeee heeee heeeee. Why are you typing like the so-called real Daciple?

I can just imagine you saying something like You reap what you Sow, yet are oblivious to that happening in this case right now. Never said you were apart of the Daciple crew. However, I admire his work and how it has helped me on my seeking of the truth, as well as his forums.

I also felt obligated to comment on this article proclaiming VC as a bona fide controlled op yet having a pretty weak amount of evidence. I see this far too often in the truth community, people trying to piece together things with flimsy means in all sorts of areas, and as a fellow truther I feel obligated to voice my opinions out on this.

If I was a mere puppet I would not be voicing out all my opinions Some of which actually go against VC here as I am doing, so drop that schpeel already. More flimsy reasoning from a soft conspiracy-muddled mind. You are no better than one who just gulps up what the TV says and you probably nod your head and download whatever any random Youtube video has to say come conspiracies.

But this has already grown stale. Think of me what you will, I could care less. I would like to discuss with Chaulk his beliefs however. I find it funny that he claims VC disinformation and people here cite VC externalizing esoteric beliefs when Chauk here is doing the very same thing with his Christ Consiousness.

Not meaning to deflect anything at you man, I would just like to discuss this more. Just throwing this out there… what does islam have to do with Luzifer conspiracies??? Christianity is the only religion not even athesism can keep up that can connect almost all of the fundamental factual conspiracies… I really dont see how Luzifer is implied to the conspiracies with islam, the belief system is even based on moon worship, which even where Islam fits in its part of the Luziferian conspiracy….

Where Christianity was originally spreading, Islam now dominates. It is also the fastest growing religion in the world. I also believe Islam will be a fundamental catalyst towards WW3. Their end times prophecy is one of conquest when the al-Mahdi is to appear and unite all them. Thank you for the information. Regardless of whether or not he is a disinfo agent, his character remains questionable.

For all we know these characters here are all just playing games like they do on that forum for idiots. Yes I see it the same as you do! Exposing Islam is not the problem moon worship, false teaching about the deity of Lord God, false Lord God etc. Its just I wanted to know why Islamic believers try to connect their religion with the conspiracies that dont fit, and thank you for your answer!

If I were Luzifer which I am not I am happy having Jesus Christ as my saviour I would want to pull in everyone into the new religion without a rebellion which would maybe happen aready in the new world order He would be the messiah for the jews and muslims, aswell as he would be the returned Jesus again corrupting his own force religion so that his glory days begin, the worship to Luzifer, the bringer of Light! They promote ideals akin to the Mystery schools Self-deification through knowledge, the immortality of the soul as well in some cases, coincidentally the two first lies the serpent told Eve.

It has also been touted by Zeitgeist, who is obvious disinfo. Study their core teachings on gnosis and you will see how prevalent it has become in our world, and how all these groups are linked under this philosophy, the true form of Luciferianism. These beliefs will be promoted as liberating truths to the remaining masses after WW3 and this will enter us into the NWO, with many smiling and holding hands. They are into runes and wicca which I noticed when they did the star dance, or pan dance, which is a ritual walking on a pentagram and doing earths movements and and praying for entlightment from the earth and stars , this is where I started to notice that Rudolf Steiners philosphy is about becoming a god, and claim that recardination to earth and working on one self changes the soul after time combining the good and evil teachings equaling them and become a pure soul arian soul such as Jesus Christ which is blasphmey!

I bought a book there theosophy by Rudolf Steiner, not from blawatsky after my eyes were open to see the luziferian conspiracy and noticing that its taking place everywhere, which was frightening … I was shocked, and it took me a good 2 weeks to fully realize what was going on, it was surreal… I started to see the pentagram, the 3rd eye knowledge, the three snakes everywhere and when my boss then talked to me that I should allow my personal angel, who holds the light to entlighten me and learn from him which was before I realized this stuff, it was a time when I was searching for the truth blew my mind away when actually thinking about it!

And then when I asked about theosophy they called it the okkult knowledge that is long forgotten and that they go by the good side wiccans … even though Rudolf Steiner was the leader of theosophy for 10 years, they find it funny that I know more than the elders… they dont know that I am a hardcore true christian they say they are christians but logically they are not Thesosphy is very interesting and I find what madame blawatsky has written very intersting!

I have not read her books yet though. Why Yes I have read most of them or read a little about Oh could you name me some good books about babylon?? I have about ebooks on the topics you have posted… and have read one so far haha I hope I have enough time to read them all but do you maybe know another book that talks about the earth beings or human form without Lord Gods spirit? See this thread. A person who told the truth about VC had his posts deleted and then lame allegations were made against them.

That subject is off limits due to what it has caused towards the forums. We used to be able to talk all about our suspicions on VC and you know that as you were there for all those things. Now you have devolved into a troll who seems insecure about homosexuality and a mosquito we constantly have to ban because all you want to do is slander and troll the boards.

Get a life man. You used to be a half decent poster, what the fuck happened? Tweet, how can anyone even have the slightest shred of respect for you after reading this? Homosexuality what? I never mentioned homosexuality here. As usual, a lie. Prove one fake account made with the same IP as truthseer, I dare you. And to be honest… couldnt it be that the person who has this blog, is the one who is giving wrong information so people dont look for the truth by VC aswell?

Illuminati agent I would like to remind people not to rely on others, again I havent looked up VC myself and what else they do, but the info on VC so far has supported the Luziferian fundamentaly with christianity, I think the maker of this site who is muslim or hindu doenst like it that VC is christian, but then again I need to look into VC a little more!!!

And what is with Lady Gaga being VC? I am confused with VC now… what are talking about and what is going on haha this is very amusing. Probably the biggest VC troll. Search up his name on the boards and see the substance of his posts yourself…. Hey Ouendan and Tweeterfist, You guys are really trying hard to twist the discussion away from VC to a religious fight here.

The concept of immortal souls and Karma is a thousand times more plausible to me than the concept of forgiveness of sins and this simple heaven-and-hell concept that the churches extracted from the bible and a bible that is thrown together and selected from chosen sources and manipulated in the early days.

If you can sleep better in giving me an label, please call me a follower of the Hare Krishna movement of Srila Prabhubada and a true lover of Jesus Christ. I hope some of you can understand my words a little, the way you are throwing around labels instead of knowledge and understanding of the worlds spiritual wisdom leaves me here in some sense of doubtfullness.

This is blasphemy! How can you combine created and fundamentaly flawed religions with words of knowledge the truth that cannot, i mean, cannot be broken? I as I said earlier do NOT follow anykind of church as well as anyother manipulated and changed truths about Jesus Christ, you even saying that you accept him as a important person shows right away what impact he had back when religion was the way to rule people every major religion added Jesus Christ the true Lord God to their made up luzifer religions so that people would still come and follow their blaphemy You are not a lover of Jesus Christ, if you dont follow the doctorine and change it to your way is changing the Lord God in flesh to a lunatic with magical powers!

Yes the church teach junk about heaven and Hell, and the church is made up so that people don follow the truth, the way and the life! I do take offense of people who just mix and match to their own will…. WAIT WAIT… ok, you know my email… explain to me please I will not hurt you, I want to understand how you can fundamentaly with facts and logic come to the conclusion that you have, really I just want to know, I will NOT kill you or make you feel bad, I just want to undersatnd your assumtions!

And I am sorry for dissrupting the discussion about VC! But I need to know who the person is who is spreading this info aswell. He probably wants to find out where you are posting from. Also, why not just answer here since you obviously have nothing to hide, so the rest of us can also read what you have to say to this crew that is trying to make you look like the questionable one, when obviously you are not.

Thanks for the advice and sorry for the late approval — just found your comment in the spam folder. Discussing VC here is now pointless. You cannot love Christ if you reject what He has done for us, that being sacrificing himself to pay for the debt your sin has caused. The concept of an immortal soul and achieving gnosis towards God is the exact lie the serpent told Eve. It is the fundamental beliefs of all these secret societies and elite who consider us cannon fodder and it is the beliefs that will be build the NWO spiritually.

It is all documented and going to plan, and you unfortunately are falling for it. There were also a couple of other threads like this started by users who were getting too curious. Every single one of them has been locked and deleted so far, but there is one right now that is still going strong at the current moment and let me tell you, the user who started this thread is being very honest and outspoken about the unethical practices that Vigilant Citizen is doing with users on the message boards.

It seems the only users that ever stay on their the longest are bored teenagers with nothing better to do with their lives, who pretty much contribute no meaningful information. A prime example of this would be the Lady Gaga subforums. Thank you for your response. I have noticed all of those threads being locked and removed as well.

I am very glad to know that users are starting to bring up the unethical fascist-like practices of VC and his sycophant moderation crew. Furthermore, VC himself appears to have the maturity and mindset of a teenager. Tell me who you know was banned and for what given reason, and if it was wrongful then I will investigate it personally. Truthseer above has been creating many false accounts for a bit so this may be who you speak of, though I can check the logs for specific users if you wish.

The woman is surrounded by a lot of symbolism. To say the whole forum is like this is a far cry however. The Religion section is always filled with insightful debate and I have learned much from it. Prove this. You will not be able to. It is a lie. And you know, you banned FP for writing on yoy! Hello Twetterfist, one of the users banned immedilately without warning was Mysticshadow, the other being myself mysticseeker.

We were both banned on one occsaion for asking a question about the moderators —a ban that was given without warning and lasted 24hrs. Yesterday, a thread was opened questinoing who VC was, and of course it got closed and deleted, and I, along with Mysticshadow were permanently banned. No obvious violations were made. I was banned for simply starting a thread questioning who VC was. Twetterfist: Note that conveniently, those threads have all now been removed by the fascist regime. If there is anyway that you can possibly go back and review the deleted threads —then please do.

Let me know what violations were made…. The banned members have already been pointed out. In case you are wondering, I am one of the users who posted on the Mitch Joel thread. To give you a hint, I was the one who stated that my computer almost crashed when I visited a site connected to Mitch Joel. I feel like I have been tricked. Sorry for that. Anyways VC is disinformation. I have been warned for asking who VC is.

Banned for asking if Dat Simple was right. At least at my blog, nobody gets censored, even for the most brainless comment. If people want to compromise themselves, so be it. Freedom of speach and thought includes the tolerance towards other opinions. I too got a permanent ban from VC for participation in the thread and possibly for questioning the bannings.

But they all have problems and huge egos. It was someone else. Anyways, another member Femalepharoe got banned. She was a real theorist with sound facts and generally logical explanations. Why was she banned? Did you know she had received no warnings? She was banned for asking about V. Complete lie, and I can prove it.

I find it hilarious that this topic of disinformation has been completely ravaged by disinfo. Very ironic. Tweet, you are behinf the. She got permanently banned. Go to DIsinfo Citizen, today fightingmonk. One comment, deleted. FP is banned, she wrote an essay on that. I shall mail her anf ask her to clear this. And though this is…endearing and cute, it is incredibly dangerous for you to be so willfully blind as to pledge allegiance to the multiply recorded suspicious activities of a site that is supposed to promote truth and knowledge.

He then had to apologize twice for being such a poor moderator we know why. Once I read through the knowledge on the yoy50 site, it reminded me of a time where I was attempting to post as a reference, a site that was an illuminati data bank. It has no author and is literally just a bunch of articles from published people and pictures. For some reason my article would not post.

It was only until I broke down the article bit by bit to identify what the filter was kicking out that I realized it was the link for the site as I had an image from it. Now you may ask yourself WHY would a truther site that supposedly promotes a fluidity of conversation want to appear as the only authority on illuminati knowledge??

I sent an email inquiring about why I could not post to the site. You draw your own conclusions. I then posted a response on the yoy50 site. I did NOT post any defamatory comments. THAT was in fact the last post I made before being bannedd. The one Hexa — the house slave — locked it and deleted it within minutes. I was then banned after having no warnings.

The only reason I knew was bc I got a message and attempted to check it but the big permanently banned would not. Do you know what that means? Is this not Stalin techniques of erasing people are of the picture? There is a reason a solid post can have views yet it is not until a few people actually start talking about the issue that a gaggle of trolls comes in out of no where to distract.

It is a means to keep the people visiting distracted and confused! He claims that people who are trying to identify when someone is lying to them are crazy , while at the same time admitting to manufacturing an elaborate scheme through lying to them. The VC site is housing some dangerous secrets and I believe that this character — like so many of the regular posters on VC- was created in an attempt to draw out those who may pose a problem.

The unfounded attacks and ban of myself will and has served as a big question mark towards these recent tactics as my posts and persona speaks for themselves. Also , I just want to warn any of the disinfo paid shills that may try to imposter me as all of this craziness is usually associated with the site ensues con artist ; that unless you have the charisma, pan-africanist knowledge in regards to the agenda, feminine righteousness, and over all style — do NOT embarrass yourself.

It will be obvious…ya know? Welcome and thanks very much for another statement of reason, truthfulness and positivity! It really helps myself to not lose my faith in mankind too much when I read such texts as yours! You are so right, the evidence is here and numerous and for everybody to see. Life always will find a way to teach us what we tend to ignore, with more or less suffering. Her banning never made any sense to me. Sorry to hear about your banning, truthseer. Female, I am true when I say that your banning escaped me.

Laya has made a thread pertaining to you coming on an alt and making a post with regards to this and Hexa. I just saw it not long ago actually. This concerns me even more however. Please send me an email at lseibert81 hotmail. I noticed that a couple of the drugs on the list Luvox, along with various types on amphetamines I have taken over the years and have made me a primal aggresive beast. It seem that these drugs will break you down to the most primitive instinct of the human mind.

Possibly to give the elite better control over the users. I have made a post in the past about my problems with SSRIs, but in this post I wanted to get into way more detail. This time I was going to explain how it causes triggers in our minds that make us extremely sucidal.

I remember it was about three paragraphs long. When I tried to submit it, I was quickly redirected to the main site. Well guess what, on the third and final time I tried to resubmit it the connection became much slower and eventually there was no connection at all.

I was blocked from going into the site. Everytime I kept trying to go in the site, the connection went nowhere. This happened for about two days. Remember the post I did about VC being blocked from my laptop? Well, this is it. I even contacted the moderators so they could fix it and I swear it felt like it took forever for them to reply Gee, I wonder why? As for the thing about borrowing a another computer, I will admit I made that part up to disguse the fact that I was using a proxy to get back into the message boards.

I was afraid that if I told everyone that I was using a proxy, the moderator would even try to diasable my connection there, too. I figured that this site just had to be censored. It seems that there is a limit to what you can say on that site. If you go too far into the information, you will only be put up with by for so long and will be eventually banned.

I learned that giving out deeper information about the elite and their agenda is an easy ticket to get banned. You will also get ridiculed by many of the users, too. This has happened to me a lot on there when I tried to point some things out. I once even posted a quote from John D. I want a nation of workers. Rockefeller Founder of the National Education Association.

It is a disputed quote. Speaking of disinfo agents, I find it hilarious how Henrik once called me that when I first joined the site. Everyone wants to hang you for even saying such a thing. I swear the Lady Gaga subfourms feel more suitable for a Lady Gaga fansite. I used to go in their from time to time, but had to leave because a good majority of the conversations were about sex and pornography Which even caused Ambroise to leave there, but who could blame her.

Smart girl! For me, nothing interesting ever happened there. Just Hartwell giving me creepy stares and Shannon Darko flashing her tits to the camera. Also, notice how people that should have been banned a long time ago get to stay on that site. Users like her kids that just like to sit around and talk about movies and memes are more out of place on there if anything.

This makes the site even more fishy. Also, I swear there are about over threads on that site that are about sex and center on the users bragging about their sex lives, not counting the ones Social and Off Topic section. Do you know any good message boards you could recommend that specialize in the subject matter of the elite, without all the celebrity worship and sex life bragging?

Ayaka, how in any way, shape, or form am I trying to discredit you? I have no qualms against you. I actually helped ensure that AdamMadison was permanently banned from the site for his actions against you As well as others , but mainly you because I sympathized. Those all are, of course, the most important aspects of the site forums there…. But Tweet, there is a lot of sex related threads in the general section.

Kat is always bringing these threads up for some crazy ass reason and normally in the General section. All I ever see in that section is Christians and Muslims fighting. It was hell. VC considers this site disinfo. You get the idea. You should be careful mentioning medication.

You never know who will abuse this kind of information against you to hurt you. None of what you said really gives credence to VC being disinformation… those problems you faced with connection are ones I have gotten before from members. Do not look into this especially over such trivial content.

The rest of your comments are simply about some VC users, and I whole heartily agree. There are certain members there who seem purely there to chat and giggle or drool over Gaga, and while I find these things disgusting, esspecialy on such a site, they aint breaking any rules per se.

If one is constantly trolling then you are to report them and we will deal with it, we cannot be everywhere at once. Your summary is grossly exaggerated as well. You are not in your comfort zone. I will not allow it. You are talking to reasonable, mostly intelligent, seekers of knowledge who are skilled in the art of communication. It is a poor defense strategy to call a character witness on stand and disregard all of the useful information in order to recall which socks they where wearing on the night of the murder.

Do not play with us. It is safe to say that the articles on the sight are extremely well researched and thus, contributes to its popularity. Perhaps even included and referenced in his works. Why is vigilant removing info from other sites that contribute to seeking knowledge that he promotes ie.

The site, with the help of the trusty mods, profess that threads intended to penetrate the man behind the curtain is unnecessary. We can simply email the administration and someone, or he, will answer our question. Yet , this is untrue. Many people have testified that answers to questions have gone ignored. What are your thoughts? There was once a rather fiery poster, who was banned time and time again for offensive and inflammatory language.

Yet , all over the internet it is attested that he bans reasonable contributors to the site at a moments notice subjectively for asking simple questions. Is it disinfo to claim transparency regarding forum decorum for banning but it is subjective? If you are not a liar, why are you so out of the loop? And how can someone get banned for not abiding by forum rules while NOT on the forum? He provides a service, we provide counts and posts that convert as dollars in advertising the pocket. There are no freebies.

Many of the banned individuals like myself are still getting comments on their threads! Tricking the viewing public as if the writers are still contributing members? We have not just went out to lunch. They pander like politicians and gulp from the cup of generalizations.

Let us see if this well informed professor of our ignorance can answer these very detailed questions. Shall we? Busy cleaning up the racism, pornography, shots at the disadvantaged, drug promotion and other satanic messages on your facebook page are ye? Ayaka its funny because you are a new member to this site,back on the old forums, I strongly contributed to the site. All of my posts besides Social were always conducted in a smart and helpful manner. Then the site shut down and i was all upset, oh poor me!

So damn sad. I think you need a reality check. Hopefully you found another board to poison and bitch on, about how you have no life. Two remarks. First; Ayaka is not a new member but has been around longer than many would suspect. I forgot to add this before, but this adds even more further evidence that VC is not what it seems:. This has risen even more suspicion. Obviously something sinister is up.

Do the math. He says he hardly knows VC, then he defends him. Someone else asked a question about VC, users are being banned. He promotes racism, mocks physical and mentally handicapped people, promotes drugs, promiscuity and pornography. Tweeterfist is not to be trusted anyway.

See the link in my name for why. On his facebook page he openly and blatantly promotes racism, pornography, making and poking fun of mentally handicapped and serious illness, pedophilia, and more. By making light of these serious issues, people are desensitized to how despicable and evil they really are. Tweeterfist and his posse are definitely part of the problem. Should have known throwing out my e-mail as a good gesture would just bite me in my ass, just as those forgotten galleries have.

I find it sad you grab at this though considering my main picture is a Biblical quote, and I have more recent ones that are Christian related as well. All my notes are around Christian related topics, for the most part too, so faarrrrrtttt there goes all that. Do you really take us all for fools? You sorry sorry fall guy, lap dog, shill!!

I have brought these thoughts towards VC himself and he has created a thread in order to discuss all this personally on the Social and Off Topic section of the boards. My cease and desist notice Posted below Does not agree. Oh and please mention to dear VC that a cease and desist notice is not arguable in a court of law in either Canada or Pakistan. You pissed him off that bad lol? Superb work in trolling. More sloppy and persistent than anything but now I am sure you can live the rest of your life complete, with a nice little house under the bridge.

Maybe bring the Red Hot Chili Peppers along. I hope you understand that jumping on a site as so can be misleading to the mod team. I will unban both accounts and you will be free to post. You will also be free to voice your concerns in the thread VC has made concerning the allegations towards him being disinformation. Apologies on behalf of the mod team.

We get a lot of bullshit and drama around these forums. Lots of little kids saddly, but they stick to their parts and I and the big boys stick to ours lol…. Actually it is best you both simply make new accounts as the reasons towards your banning are justified with the TOS. Mod decisions are to be discussed privately and the display with which you pursued this From what it looks like in the logs show you had no contempt for this.

If you guys are looking for sincere discussion then you will go there for it. I will not log on. I believe I am still banned. You can not claim to any behavior on the boards as again, i have never been warned. The moderators should have done a thorough investigation rather than just automatically assume that a poster is someone or something else and then immediately jump on the ban-happy wagon.

I did however received a response from VC after a couple of attempts, but his response was only a few of words that did not even address the situation. I was banned a few months ago for no real reason that I could discern after posting a few threads about my views of Christianity. First a troll appeared and started taking all of it out of context and baited me into a flame war which I tried to diffuse.

Then Tweeterfist and his gang started accusing me of Gnosticism, which seems to be their only tact to silence anyone who dares pose an alternative view. Tweeterfist keeps accusing all these Jones people of being Toby because they claim to be the group that invented him, and then this fascist pretend Christian moderator Tweeterfist has the audacity to talk about evidence? You just believe them because of what evidence actually?

Just because they said it? HAHA, great evidence!! Anyone who seems to present a different message from what you believe to be true on the VC website is accused of being this infamous Toby by you and your crew. How is that? What evidence do you have? What evidence do we have that this character ever existed? Tweeterfist, please give your head a shake. Do you see the problems with those statements? You seem flimsy in your own reasoning in your own right, but I guess someone who has done as much drugs as your facebook wall and pictures seem to suggest would probably act that way.

And before you call me Toby again, or anyone else, all I know about you was ascertained by a simple google search on Tweeterfist. Oh, you also say and claim to be a Christian. As I looked through your favorite list and WOW man you have some sick and perverted tastes in music.

No wonder you come across so messed up. The mistakes of the fool are known to the world, but not to himself. The mistakes of the wise man are known to himself, but not to the world. The last question I leave you with is, do you know the mistake you are making by supporting that man, or men, or are you ignorant of it? Ooh you got me good all over, def put some effort into that one.

You aint a special unique snowflake, whoever you were. Wild Bill maybe. There is evidence towards him being true, whereas this article here is a joke, to be frank. Is this how your brain really works?

Third, I was chosen as a moderator because I was a long time and decent poster. Your point? Such weak ass points. Again, plenty of Christian related stuff of more recent date there that can show you who I am today. Bzzz another one gone.

You have shown that you will bend evidence to fit the means of truth you wish. Such a horrible attribute to a truther, you should be ashamed. Carries off into other aspects of your life, I am sure. Just a little misled. You created a site? LOL, but are a moderator on Vigilant Citizen.

Sure, what else have you got to tell us? You swear. You bear false witness. You bear grudges. You fornicate. You take part in recreational drugs and drunkeness. Yet you preach to others to save them? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God.

You do drugs. You have sex out of wedlock per your own admission. You listen to Satanic music. Yet you parade around as a righteous Christian boy. You are a hypocrite. Everyone can see it. Am I Toby too now? Interesting admission of guilt you stupid fool. Now just that allegation raises red flags to me that anyone telling the truth is going to be accused of being Toby.

I am sad now. That was a game changer It is to incite awareness and get people thinking about what surrounds them. I find it quite amusing that only this part of my reply to Vig was posted on the pathetic site. Looks like all the cheerleaders are coming over now, hahahahah. Why would I think otherwise? I saw it with my own eyes, the link had an affiliate number on it. Good evidence there, idiot! If not, as he is there to answer questions.

I wanna see what Hexa says about you being banned. Wanna hear the other side of the story. I swear to Yahweh above on this though. If you would though. I feel as though they are very detailed. Or you can answer yourself. Sticking to the topic at hand — ive yet to get an answer as to why some sites are blocked by the filter and the implications that poses. This is really funny, I have been a poster and reader since VC started his blogs and message board.

Rotten kids ruined my fun. No just another victim of meth, coke, pot amongst other cocktails designed to numb your head, put holes in your consciousness and bypass your critical thinking faculties so you believe everything you are told like a good little lap dog while at the same time believing that you are in control of your mind. In addition to that, numerous people on there are oblivious to the details of the accusations against him anyway.

On top of it all, they also have an idealized image of him as a good, heroic, person who is doing something great for each of them and now with that thread, he seeks to reinforce that image in their minds. Yep, anyone asking any hard questions is getting banned or comments deleted over there.

But Kissthegyrl always seems to show up to defend him anytime someone has asked hard questions in the past and now. Guests, come out from the bushes, eat your heart out. Or is seeking the truth personally less fun than throwing random allegations out and connecting flimsy dots? Unban me and I will post questions with facts about VC.

You underestimate my technical skills. I have knowledge on VC no one does which is why I got mailed that notice. People know what happens when you post there. Also, the banning of Adam C. Madison was one of the best days of my life. I used to want to get the urge to reach my hand in the computer screen and strangle the living hell out of the bastard.

As for Chainmaker, Bible thumpers like him piss me off. Now HE was a tride and true troll. They most certainly were nothing like the ones who were just banned. When will parents like the one in the photo ever realize that Lady Gaga is not someone for children to look up to and try to emulate? But seriously, parents should at least take their time to talk to their children and explain to them that people like Gaga, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, and the likes are not postive role models.

Lady Gaga is highly eccentric and does some questionable things but as I have said before on this forum she preaches respect and tolerance to her fans and anyone listening and devotes her time and money to various charities including the one she has just started, The Born This Way Foundation which promotes self-esteem and confidence building and helps teens with career options and vocational training.

Heaven forbid they start looking up to an independent, educated, intelligent singer-songwriter and pianist, They might get ambitious. Celebrites have way too much negativity in them That means that they have more negative personality traits than positive ones.

They are different from us. Why should children have to look up to someone that is from a different class than them, when they have ordinary people just like them who actually do things. Celebrites in my opinion are some of the most useless people on the planet. What do they actually contribute that is beneficial?

Not much. What, faking emotions on film, modeling an outfit, or singing a stupid song. Would you want a child to end up like that? For someone who is supposed to be a moderator, you think he would be much smarter and have freed himself from the celebrity obsession that was programmed into his mind starting with the day he emerged from the womb. Now he Henrik, admits to working with Satanists on Death Metal projects, uses the Masonic Lion symbol on his website, and puts it all out in the open claiming allegiance to God?!?

Wow, messed up! This Henrik guy, through his music certainly carries a distinct satanic energy, confirmed by his persona as expressed through his websites. I have enough reason just observing this character to question his motives. All of this has a bit of ring of truth to it, as distorted as it sounds. Henrik has the same sort of distorted message in his music.

They both produce for metal bands. It sounds to me like there was some sort of internal breakup or problem within he site and some of that information is being dispersed here and there is some heavy damage control. Alas, complete damage control and spin doctoring in effect. The reality of it is that these were not produced in some seedy dungeon with pentagrams painted on the walls, nor in glitzy studios monitored by Hollywood handlers with cigars in their mouths.

We became friends and I mixed their album out of my own apartment. Elite stuff right there. To those that are curious, a lot of users at the VC website are being made aware of this address and reading this discussion. Sledstorm - Zonetrax Original Mix. Deki feat. District 12 - Crescent Moon Original Mix. DJ Marko feat. Future State - Ebans Original Mix.

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